| johnpaulca 12,036 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 12:48:08 PM 
 I used a 1-min chart with VIX and XIV on my screen. I knew the VIX is ripe for a pullback(daily chart) and still is,  so the risk is not so bad. First sign of weakness on the VIX 1-min I entered XIV, sold when the VIX became oversold....nothing fancy or complicated, it moves darn fast thats for sure.
 
 
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| Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 1:03:21 PM 
 The relationship between the VIX and XIV is pretty weak - look at yestersay's ~12-13% drop in VIX and the tepid move in XIV.  Same thing today.  Marginal VIX movement up (about 2.5% at the time of this writing) versus the -3.5% drop in XIV.
 
 Not a good proxy for the VIX - seems to be designed to take money, not give it.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 1:11:38 PM 
 Star Scientific, Inc. STSI
 0.69 Up 0.1194(20.93%)
 
 
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| johnpaulca 12,036 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 1:24:30 PM 
 Thanks for the heads-up Kevin.
 
 
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| Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 1:46:11 PM 
 More of a cautionary tale - I bought a few hundred shares of XIV right at the close on Monday for 26.61, and despite the big drop in the VIX yesterday the stock barely moved.  Really frustrating.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 1:59:44 PM 
 You would be crazy not to snag DGAZ 5-7 bucks in 4-6 months.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 3:00:09 PM 
 I switched all XIV to UVXY. It drops harder.
 
 I went thru some charts a few weeks ago & over a  year it fell about 50% more on entries exits. Try it instead.
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 10:54:49 PM 
 I tweaked this a bit What do you'll think.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
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 | 2/5/2014 11:19:33 PM 
 Or
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| shillllihs 6,101 posts
 msg #118083
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 | 2/6/2014 9:45:32 AM 
 (TVIX)
 10.63 Down 0.60(5.33%)
 
 Needed that...
 
 
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